Smoking

Jun. 9th, 2008 09:27 pm
[identity profile] shigeshock.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] news_jpop
hello all :) i've never posted in this community before, but my name is Shige. hajimemashita.

i'm sure that this has been discussed before, but does anyone know if any of the NEWS members (besides Yamapi [he quit, right?], Ryo, and Kei-chan) smoke? i'm not going to judge them or anything (although i am admittedly disappointed), i'm just merely curious. i have heard someone say that Tego smokes, but i've heard it said quite often that he detests the smell of cigarettes.

anything (especially pics and/or articles) you know would be great. :)

arigatou~

Date: 2008-06-10 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manonpikamishi.livejournal.com
Kind of old: http://community.livejournal.com/news_jpop/1041849.html

Date: 2008-06-10 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manonpikamishi.livejournal.com
No problem. All you gotta do is google, and whatever you're looking for will pop up.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
Just to add to that old post, Shige is also a smoker.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allopatric.livejournal.com
:0 just wondering, any pictures of him smoking? XD;

Date: 2008-06-10 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
Sorry, not that I know of. I just know that he does, and it doesn't really surprise me. It's okay though for you to not believe me. ^.^vv It's something that isn't easy to believe without visual proof.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allopatric.livejournal.com
True but one of the side effects of smoking is the darkening of the lips XD; maybe we should focus on that 8D

Date: 2008-06-10 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
If I had to say, just from looking, which members smoke, without any picture proof, I'd definitely say that Yamapi, Ryo, Koyama (picture proof of all three of them) and Shige all do. Uchi probably not, though he might have tried it a few times, Kusano . . . maybe. Tegoshi I can imagine would smoke if he was a little drunk, but never outside of that. Massu probably doesn't smoke or drink, because he's a good boy. XD

Date: 2008-06-10 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allopatric.livejournal.com
Everything about Massu seems a mystery XD I saw a picture of Kusano smoking floating around but it turned out to be a manip. Kusano and Uchi, something tells me they stay away from it 8DD

Date: 2008-06-10 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shini-no-shisha.livejournal.com
Tegoshi once mentioned that he doesn't like people smoking around him ^^;;; with that I'd say he doesn't smoke himself XD

Date: 2008-06-12 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paper-fleurs.livejournal.com
What made you think that he smokes. if you don't mind me asking~ I find it really hard to believe, although his voice kind of says it all.

Date: 2008-06-12 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
A friend I trust has witnessed it.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theahhmoment.livejournal.com
Shige smokes? T____T He looks like a good boy! I hope he'll stop coz he's my fav in News and I want him to have a healthy body. =P

Date: 2008-06-10 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
Well, Koyama looks like a good boy too and he smokes. Unfortunately, that's just Japanese society, especially for males. Once you hit 20 you're either a smoker or a non-smoker and more often than not, they're smokers.

Date: 2008-06-10 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shigeptan.livejournal.com
i know right!, he totally doesn't seem like the type to smoke. and yah he's my fave too =( total image kill, oh shige protect your health! Xo

Date: 2008-06-10 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syah219.livejournal.com
He does? I wonder since when. SInce his bestfriend Koyama smokes so no wonder he got influenced into it as well...

Date: 2008-06-10 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
He probably started not long after he turned 20.

Date: 2008-06-10 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverrangel.livejournal.com
what makes you think he smokes, though? not that i'm questioning it or anything, but everyone seems sure he does and i haven't picked up on that at all.

Date: 2008-06-10 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
Well, I trust the friend who told me she saw him.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vtsoccagrl.livejournal.com
i think yamapi has quit or he's a very light smoker. i didn't see any smoking scenes in his jounetsu tairiku (they followed him for 6 months!). also, his skin is just toooo beautiful.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyagcpinkuneko.livejournal.com
I think that maybe he did a little for a while, but that he doesn't do it much anymore. And with his teeth having been fixed only recently, he probably wants to take care of them, ne?

Date: 2008-06-10 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-halo7.livejournal.com
don't think that show is a very accurate source. the entire video is about 22 mins spread over 6 months. if we assume there's 30 days in 1 month, that's on average 13 seconds a day.

and obviously they will avoid showing on national TV Yamapi smoking or any other habits which might affect his image negatively.

Date: 2008-06-10 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vtsoccagrl.livejournal.com
i only said that based on the fact that they showed oguri shun smoking in his documentary. since smoking isn't a negative image over there (or so i assume), i didn't think the producer would be too nitpicky on making sure to remove any scenes of pi smoking during his breaks.

but then again, im just making assumptions.

Date: 2008-06-10 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-halo7.livejournal.com
ah well i didn't watch Oguri Shun's episode so i didn't know that. but i think it may be pressure from the jimusho for them to not potray Yamapi with a negative image. even though smoking is very common and accepted in Japan, it is still not a good thing. and Yamapi's fanbase has lots of people below the legal age of smoking so it would be best to avoid showing him smoke.

or maybe we're overanalyzing things. perhaps it's simply the case of Yamapi smoking being not interesting enough to make it on TV. :P

Date: 2008-06-10 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayashi-mikage.livejournal.com
Lol, there's a huge difference between Shun and Yamapi.
Latter is johnnys and this equals clean image. And trust me - they would remove everything that won't show him as a good boy :)

Date: 2008-06-10 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com
That's kind of a blanket statement; considering Yamapi posed nude, and Ryo posed mostly nude (twice) that Johnny's = clean.

Plus, look at KAT-TUN.

Date: 2008-06-10 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayashi-mikage.livejournal.com
It was a huge shock that he posed nude, the same with MatsuJun in an-an shoot. And trust me - posing nude is more safe than smoking and drinking, considering image :)

Kat-tun is positioned as "wild, bad, sexy", hence the difference.

Date: 2008-06-10 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshua-glass.livejournal.com
True, I just never considered it a clean thing. But then again, it doesn't shock or bother me. All the pictures were quite tastefully done.

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From: [identity profile] vtsoccagrl.livejournal.com - Date: 2008-06-11 04:49 am (UTC) - Expand

Date: 2008-06-10 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] budiamond.livejournal.com
Judging by Tegoshi's amazing skin, probably not.
I saw him with one single, solitary pimple during the backstage scenes of the Never Ending Wonderful Story concert. The rest of his skin was just amazingly clear and lovely. Agggh, Tegoshi, you lucky little wretch. :(

Date: 2008-06-10 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calasander.livejournal.com
To be honest, EVERYBODY in Japan smokes, whether it'd be habitual, casual, or social. Cigarettes are dirt cheap compared to the US and I've never met a Japanese person (during the time that I was there) who has never had one cigarette. Though some of the Johnny's might not have touched a cigarette in his life, I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't. It's just become a part of Japanese culture, unfortunately.

Date: 2008-06-10 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elsaaaaa.livejournal.com
Even if they don't smoke on a regular basis, I am sure most of them at least tried.

Yamapi smoked on Prodai =O

Date: 2008-06-10 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryohoney.livejournal.com
yamapi did smoke, but he has quitted. ryo is trying to quit *ryo you should start now!!! TT* . others i'm still not sure....

Date: 2008-06-10 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadysoul-chan.livejournal.com
erm,most of johnny's smokes..but i can't imagine tesshi n massu with cigaretes,hahaha..it will turn out cute!! XDD
as for the others,i think they smoke,just look at their lips n teeth..n hey,i love smokers voice,they're sexy..hahaha..but i hate cigarettes though,really hope they'll realize how bad it is for their health~~ fufufuu~~
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Date: 2008-06-10 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayumwu.livejournal.com
ROFLMAO whut, I don't smoke. I've never even tried although i must admit shige smoking is hot *shot*
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Date: 2008-06-10 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ayumwu.livejournal.com
\:D/!

ROFLMAO WTF NOOOO. OKAY MAYBE? XD WE SHOULD STOP SPAMMING PEOPLE'S POSTS HAHAHA

Date: 2008-06-10 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubamexgaeshi.livejournal.com
I know that Tegoshi doesn't smoke because he hates the smell. Yay, tegoshi. XP I think that everyone who was smoking quit, although i cant say for sure...

Date: 2008-06-10 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ncncnc.livejournal.com
LOL.. since when does smoking equal bad guy?

Yeah i'm sure almost all of the johnny's boys smokes.. even the 'seems' innocent one.. you just never know...... =P

Date: 2008-06-10 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] butachanlj.livejournal.com
IAWTC. Smoking doesn't make you a bad person :3

Date: 2008-06-10 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki-anna.livejournal.com
i can honestly say ive never even touched a cigarette in my life (partly coz i have asthma and would choke to death if i smoked!!) and i really don't think its cool or sexy EXCEPT for when johnnys boys do it. eg: the recent photoshoot of jin....but yeah, having lived in japan i can definetly say that heaps of ppl smoke there, especially men. restaraunts still have smoking areas, cigarettes are sold in vending machines...its all far more accessible and "normal" than it is,say, in australia where i live.

Date: 2008-06-11 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampire-losti.livejournal.com
eg: the recent photoshoot of jin....

what do you mean? jin is smoking? or did i understand anything wrong?

Date: 2008-06-11 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vtsoccagrl.livejournal.com
in the recent photo spread of popeye. jin smokes in it, seductively with a cig.

Date: 2008-06-12 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampire-losti.livejournal.com
do u have those pics? o__O

Date: 2008-06-10 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theside-ihide.livejournal.com
i read somewhere that yamapi did try to stop smoking around the time when he was in GYM, but he started again during byakkotai, prolly coz they made him smoke for the drama.

but then m not sure if this is true :O

does anybody have a picture of yamapi smoking? (not in a dorama, but like a paparazzi pic or something)

Date: 2008-06-11 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echowillow.livejournal.com
im not sure if this stats is accurate, but i was studying a topic related to smoking in uni and my notes mentioned 2 out of 3 men in japan smoke, and yet they have the lowest rate of coronary heart disease in the world. haha.. my point is since then i kinda accepted most japanese smoke, i just don't make it part of my fangirling.

looking at the comments, thats about right. 4 out of 6 of NEWS members smoke. btw, did anyone notice in NEWS dvd, whenever they showed backstage clips, there are always some things blurred out on tables. I'm inclined to think they are cigarete packs. thats my guess~

Date: 2008-06-11 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xkrism.livejournal.com
i really like your icon, its funny. where did you get that clip from?

Date: 2008-06-11 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heiryzmylisza.livejournal.com
ok... so i don't know if this is of much help but!
i think i saw massu smoke in his episode of gekidan engimono?
i don't know if i remember it correctly though...
i'm still trying to look for a picture or clip of it...
but if it's not true, hontouni gomen nasai!!!
believe me, i love massu too!!!

Date: 2008-06-12 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] love-massu.livejournal.com
in japan they have machines you can buy cigarettes....they cost like 230 yen. A lot of people smoke in Japan. Some of the kids in the Japanese schools smoke, too. I didnt know Koyama smoked until early this year. Does anybody have pictures of Ryo or and of the news members smoking??? hmm...i was curious if they did...-_______- I never thought they smoked.

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